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Old 03-20-19 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by IAmSam
1) Archetypes or A23s?

2) almost opposite of #1 , but since I'm already here...
Am I crazy to even be considering trying some ultra-light, and judging from the disclaimers pretty darn fragile, deeply discounted racing skinnies (that I accidentally found while I was shopping for bigger tires ) for JRA?
I had a pair of TB14's and I can honestly say that I could feel the difference between those and the cheaper rims that I had before them. They had great resonance when going over things and they were smooth and super round.
Very stiff when cranking, rolling, and turning. Great handling overall.
They left me with a very good impression of H Plus Son. Plus, their rims are aesthetically pleasing.

I'm guessing that Archetypes would be a little stiffer and less forgiving, but i'm sure that they have similar traits with respect to the rim shape (they do something better than the TB14 box section.

Velocities are probably of similar quality. I am riding a deep V right now and I like it's lateral stiffness and solid feel when rolling. I've stripped this thing down to raw and checked it out and can tell you that this is some quality ****. The machining is great. I also have 2 broken spokes right now and that rim hasn't even gone out of true. (Waiting till next week to repair).
The A23 seems like a stronger, heavier, slightly wider more box sectiony deep v basically.
Not sure how much of a weight hot dog you are, but dem is some heavy rims.
Velocity is Made in USA, so there's that.
H + Son is made in a small boutique machine shop in china (they're not made under tin roofs).

I was going to mention the 23mm wideness of H+ Son, but those are both the same width so that settles that.
Notable mention would be SUN CR18.
If you just wanna try out the wide rim thing and see if you like it, CR18 is 22.5mm wide and $30 shipped and $30 in most bike shops that i've visited. May be worth a try.

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