Originally Posted by
Wildwood
Ishiwata 022, which I really like. 61cm ctc seat tube with short toptube (56.5). Needed a long stem.
edit: are short TTs on large Dutch bikes a ‘thing’???
Ah, the Competion. I thought it was a different model.
I'm not sure about the top tubes on all Dutch bikes but it certainly does seem to be the case on Batavus bikes from that era. [MENTION=173992]non-fixie[/MENTION] might be able to give you a better answer because he has a bigger sample size.
I've been meaning to measure the rest of my bikes to compare them like this:
Link:
Batavus Randonneur GL geometry - BicycleCalculator.co.uk.
Key Metrics- Trail 34mm
- Wheel Flop Factor 8.9mm
- Head tube Angle 74°
- Seat Tube Angle 72.8°
- Virtual fork angle 8.966°
- Bottom Bracket Drop 70mm
- Bottom Bracket Height 265mm
- Wheelbase 1030mm
- Seat Tube Length c-t 640mm
- Effective top tube 565mm
- Reach 373mm
- Stack 616mm
- Seat Middle - Bottom Bracket 238mm
- Fork Length 385mm
Though I am not entirely sure if these measurements are correct anymore. I believe I remeasured a while ago and came to slightly higher trail.