[QUOTE=Rick;20849918]I haven't toured for many years. I plan on going on a few short trips first with my son. A camp ground 26 miles from my home first next month. The front panniers weigh around 14 lbs each loaded. I haven't weighed the rear panniers yet. The left rear has my exped 4 season 3 person tent in it. With foot print it weighs around 11 lbs but I can put the bicycles in the vestibules or the main tent. The right rear has my dry goods in the main compartment. Two weeks worth of instant beans and rice, protein and cliff bars. I am a side sleeper and out weigh the burst pressure of air mattress so I have two closed cell foam pads in the green bag on the rear rack. They are each 14oz plus whatever the bag weighs. The front panniers ar the Arkel XM-45 the rears a

are you still pleased with the Panniers?