[MENTION=152773]noglider[/MENTION], I got a little taste of it today. I was on both bikes for a total of about 4 hours today. My kid asked me to go for a ride this evening and I didn’t want to say no but I’d already done at least 40 miles and then have to ride to work in the morning with a full load, laptop and all. My knees were feeling just a little thrashed but sitting back down on the hybrid was so nice after the rather spirited ride on the Voyageur. That’s the bike I need some days, I don’t always feel like I have the energy for drops and tall gears. Especially not carrying weight. When it’s windy. Or raining. Etc.