To borrow a term from [MENTION=108582]RobbieTunes[/MENTION] who has a bike where the ride is just fantastic, the bike just dances and in other words is orgasmic?
have to you been able to figure out why and duplicate?
What have been key differences? wheels, tires, frame or just plan magic combination that is not reproducible
I am 6 foot (but at the shrinking stage of life

) and 266
My prime ride is a 90/91 De Rosa that obtained from [MENTION=61463]gomango[/MENTION] (who noted it was the best climbing bike he has ridden)
it is set up with 105 5800, Mavic open pro rims, 32 spokes, double butted spokes on ultegra 6800 hubs (bought from Performance so not sure if hand or mahince build) and Vittoria Corsa G tires with race butyl tubes I run at 115psi, brooks swift steel rail saddle It is on the large size for me at 59cm and the frame is SLX
It rides great, handles well and is smooth and responsive
My ride that was a total surprise at how is dances and is orgasmic is my 84 Team miyata. It is double butted miyata tubing set up with a mix of 7400 and 7100 dura ace. the wheels are a nearly NOS wheelsmith build with mavic 330 rims and straight gauge spokes on sanshin cartridge hubs, and Challenge elite pro tubular (not supper high end 220TPI and butyl tubes) at 130psi the frame is on the small size for me at 54 or 56 (have to double check measurements
this bike just dances, light handling and smooth and jumps when pushed hard. my mechanic (go to for things like BB chasing) rode it and and couldn't believe it.
in the case of the Team Miyata I think the wheels/tires made a huge difference.... I rode it a bit with the wheels it came with,Mavic MA40 on dura ace ups and double butted spokes, with newish Bontrager 25mm tires..... and the ride wash much harsher....didn't ride that combo enough to get a feel of dancing even though harsh.
I am thinking I am going to get some tubies for the de rosa and see what that does....probably ultegra 6800 with mavic reflex cd rims and see what happens, not sure on tires, but higher end.
If that doesn't add magic, I will seriously consider looking for a 58 cm Team Miyata and see if I can create the magic with that frame and modern components....
your stories and thoughts?