True, my other option at a local dealer I found a 2018 Felt VR3 more endurance based that's fine but similar specs to my Scott which I love
https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear...lt-vr3-review/
This wouldn't alleviate my qualms about carbon but rather only give me a new bike from a dealer with a warranty.
I looked at Lynskey Titanium and with a sale it's in my range but the sizing is off for me