Originally Posted by
2old
A heavy steel frame (think Walmart or a Kona Honzo - I own one) can be seven pounds while a carefully constructed one can be as light as four pounds. Most garden-variety steel frames are in the five pound range FME. I have a late 80's - early 90's Diamondback Axis constructed with True Temper OX3 that rides like a magic carpet off road even with a rigid fork.
That's sick man. I'd love to own something like that one day (as I'm sure most of us would), but for the sake of this thread it's not the kind of steel I'm asking about. I'm well aware your True Tempers and your Reynolds 853s are dreamlike compared to almost anything else, but I'm afraid my budget at the moment is more concerned with good ole tried n true 4130. I'm just trying to gage if there is any noticeable difference btwn a stoutly crafted 4130 trail beast and a more aggressive, all mountain-like triple butted 4130 frame. I'm starting to think probably not that much of a difference. But maybe the geo is a big difference maker? Only one way to find out in the end I reckon..