Are you measuring your reach from the specific saddle point to the notching-up/crook of the brake lever/shift lever hoods (where it goes from horizontal to vertical when you're riding "on the hoods")? Handlebars can have a lot of reach differences from the clamp to the hoods, and not many people call that out. I am a strident measure-er of bikes so that I get my fitment correct, so I understand when something ends up wrong. One of my bikes feels funny in spite of having my measurements spot on. I'll vary saddle-to-hoods drop a little, but this bike is pretty close to level, which should be fine, but I still need to drop the saddle 1/8" or so.

Saddle angle and hood angle can be different and thus variables. Keep posting, even silly posts like one word a post, to get to 10 posts, and then you can post pictures (upload from computer/"device") and that will help all of us!