Originally Posted by Jarery
Rubbish is asking for proof, then when its placed in front of you, discounting it as pc mantra.
um, haven't seen any actual proof supporting a high carb/low fat diet, nor any that supports the contention that sat. fats in a low carb diet are bad for you.
Rubbish is beleiving a geek with a blog over the harvard medical department
the evidence supports the geek, along with a lot of highly respectable scholarly scientific types. I like the direction Harvard seems pointed in, unfortunately, they still take a stand against sat. fat, a stand that is simply not supported by science. Every study done in a setting where carbs are controlled proves that a high fat diet that includes sat. fat actually IMPROVES your indicators for heart disease.
as to why you can't trust Harvard, I can only guess. could be careerism, someone, or a lot of someone's have based their careers on the lipid hypothesis and they can't turn back now, could be a lot of things. could be they are so arrogant that they haven't even seen the studies.
Rubbish is spending 4 years 'low carbing it' and still having a weight problem then telling everyone else who successfully defeated their weight problem, that they are doing it wrong.
Rubbish is only beleiving 'studies' when all you need for proof is a mirror.
Face it, you been low carbing for 4 years, and you stated your still overweight, either you or your diet choice is a failure. I'll let you pick which it is.
quite clearly the failure is my own, ha haaa... I know exactly why I'm overweight, I love to eat, and I love to drink. by drink, I mean beer, scotch, wine, etc. and I have only been, at best, sporadic with the workouts (till now, I've turned a new leaf. I'm starting my 4th week of working out 6 days a week,w/out fail).
I hesitate to respond to you point about my weight, becuase it's just so darn silly. I have a friend who is mick jagger skinny, he eats cheeseburgers, fries, pizza, ice cream, the works, and he stays rail thin. does that mean his diet is a good one?
I stick to low carb for a lot of reasons beyond wt. control, although wt. control is one of them. without changing anything else, I can keep my wt. down 30 pounds below where it was, simply by following low carb guidelines. I also do it because I like to eat this way, I love never being hungry, I love the satisfied feeling I have, I love steaks, I love fish, I love pork, I love chicken, I love broccoli, I love spinach, I love butter, I love mayonaise, etc. I also do it because it seems to affect my mood, I am always much calmer and more relaxed. this is impossible to prove or quantify, but I can feel it for sure. I also do it because all of my health indicators are better than before. My LDL and HDL (although I think these are pretty much meaningless) are far better, blood sugar is better, triglycerides are way better, etc. etc. etc. I stick with it because it works,a nd because none of the things that the cert. nutritionalists of this world tell you about low carb are actually true. Unless you're a sprinter. apparently that is true, you can sprint faster and lift heavier wts. etc. with your body loaded with glucose and water. If I were a competitive athlete on a serious level, this would mean something to me, and I might consider carbo loading for the slight advantage it provides (and I mean slight), but I'm not, so it isn't worth it to me.
Edit : To everyone else who chooses low carb diet to lose weight, go for it. Whatever works for you is good. I just disagree with all the "everyone else is wrong crap"
if I ever said everyone else is wrong, I apologize, I certainly dont feel that way. apparently you can follow a high carb diet, and as long as you exercise a lot, you can stay healthy (<cheap shot warning==>tho it didn't help Jim Fixx or the Power Bar folks!). my real point here is that I can chooose the low carb route and exercise and see vast improvements, and that I disagree with those would tell me that I must have carbs to reach my goals, or that I must avoid sat. fats to stay healthy, or that a low fat diet is somehow healthier than a low carb diet. it just aint so.