[MENTION=41131]noobinsf[/MENTION],

Yes, with platforms they are great.

With clips and straps on quill pedals, any real climbing or rides longer than, say, 40 miles the cage digs in.

I either use cycling shoes with Look pedals now, or soccer cleats with the spikes cut off with my quill pedal bikes.

The soccer cleats heave a really stiff, hard sole, and have worked well so far.