Originally Posted by
NoControl
Thanks for this. Its exactly what I needed to see! I think I'll get the same setup minus the front Ortliebs. I'll just go with lighter panniers and the Nelson in the rear.
The Nelson is considerably smaller than the Camper, but whatever one you decide on go with get the longflap version as it allows you to carry bulky items. It's useful when you buy large 2L sodas or a 6 pack of beer and need to get it to the campsite.
I use a Camper Longflap and an Ortlieb Classic Handlebar bag and have more than enough room for a tent, pad, sleeping bag and all my clothes in the saddlebag. I carry wallet, food, rain jacket, lock and all vital personal items in the handlebar bag and always take it with me when I leave my bike.
Carradice saddlebags where not initially designed to be used with supports. They mount nicely from saddlebag loops on the right saddle (usually a Brooks) and strap around the seat post. The key is to buckle the straps on the inside of the bag so that it can be pulled tight against the saddle to stop sway. See the section on "Mounting a Saddlebag" here.
https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/carradice.php