Thanks guys all some pretty sweet ideas. I'm going to take it for a ride in a secluded area and see what happens, if it doesn't loosen up I'll give some of those things a try seems like wedges is the way to go over any kind of puller. And if all else fails, I'll call around to see if that tool is available near by, I have a few days to kill until I have a new crankset to put on it anyway. And I'm kind of curious to see if it will actually come off on it's own.