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Old 11-05-19 | 07:53 PM
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Battle of The Quill Open-Face Stems!

Okay, after a long hiatus, I'm building a bike.

Actually, I'm not personally building my bike, but my friend is.

What happened is, he got tired of seeing the ex-Velocult NOS Look Bernard Hinault frameset hanging in my living room, and said he had a bunch of NOS and lightly used Campagnolo 9 and 10 speed groups that we could put on it. He said this three or four times over a year. Finally, he came over and dang-near *ordered* me to get the frame over to his basement shop for a build. I mean, kind of nervy, go to a man's house, drink his wine, and slap him around until he cries Uncle and agrees to let you hang some carbon Campy on his frame. But I'm a wimp, I guess, so he prevailed.

I need to find a post, stem, and wheels.

The post is easy. It will be a Campagnolo Record Carbon 27.2 mm, not hard to find. Unless the stem ends up being a Look, in which case it will be a Look Ergostem 27.2 mm, also not hard to find.

The wheels are easy too, although spendy. They will be Zipp 303 or similar carbon medium section wheels, possibly tubular.

Wait, you ask, what's this build about? Sounds kinda weird already!

So the idea is that we are in a parallel universe, which is exactly like our current universe, except that the laws of physics are a tiny bit different. Very tiny bit. The only difference is that carbon fiber turned out to be an unsuitable material for road bike frames. Oh, they tried, but after horrific crashes and dozens of riders and spectators maimed by asploding carbon frames and flying carbon shrapnel, the ASO and UCI outlawed carbon fiber frames. That was back in the 1990s. You probably remember the terrifying crash on the Champs when a fragmenting carbon frame killed a gendarme and crippled several riders while bringing down half the peloton. I'll post the video in a sec.

Thus, every TdF has been won on a steel framed bike. The 2019 Tour de France was won by Egan Bernal riding a Pinarello steel frame with carbon everything else. We're building a racebike for the Parallel Universe 2020 Tour, folks!

Back to the problem at hand. It is the stem. The fork has a steel threaded 1" steerer, so I need a quill stem. I don't like the threaded-to-threadless adapters or stems larger in diameter than the frame tubes. But I want an open face stem. Just, well, because. Oh, and it has to be long (120-140mm) and look really goooood when *slammed*.

After some research, it looks like my choices for quill + open face stems are:

Cinelli Oyster

Cinelli Frog

3T Motus

3T Mutant

3T Evol

added - Deda Murex

added - Mavic 370

Or, if I wanted to riff on the "Look", the other choice might be:

Look Ergostem

Help me battle these choices out. Which actually worked well as stems? Which tend to break or slip? Which look goooood? Which would you choose?

Extra credit: The bare frame is 1833 g and the bare fork is 673 g. Any guesses on final bike weight?

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