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Old 11-23-19 | 06:09 PM
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Miele Man
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Bikes: iele Latina, Miele Suprema, Miele Uno LS, Miele Miele Beta, MMTB, Bianchi Model Unknown, Fiori Venezia, Fiori Napoli, VeloSport Adamas AX

Originally Posted by DropBarFan
Wow, Haanjo 5C Carbon rated for 300 lbs, same as Surly Trucker! Today I did a grocery run on 5C--almost 30 lbs stuff in front panniers on Tubus Tara rack, surprisingly little flex & no shimmy at 28 mph.

IMHO both traditional touring bikes & "adventure" bikes limit tire width too much. Wide tires give a huge increase in comfort for a minor speed penalty. My avg speed on Haanjo 5C with 54mm tires is the same as Surly Disc Trucker with 50mm tires & gives a much softer ride, I rarely have to slow down for bumpy stretches.
That's precisely why I started adapting rigid frame/fork MTBs to drop-bar touring set ups. I can put 26" x 2.125 knobby tires on any of those without problem and still have room for full fenders. On the dirt logging/mining roads I tour on those 26" x 2.125 knobby tires come in real handy.

One thing I notice with rear pannier racks and panniers is that if the weight is behind the axle (further away from the seat-tube) that shimmy can happen fairly quickly. I had shimmy occur once on a shakedown ride with a loaded MTB. I got off the bike, loosened the straps holding the rack to the seatstays, slid the rack forward about 1/4" or 1/2" (it wasn't much) and the shimmy was immediately gone.

I think that eventually there will be carbon fiber touring bicycles and/or frames offered. In my opinion the reason they're not yet is that manufacturers are more interested in other areas where they can sell more bicycles/frames rather than in a niche market such as touring.

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