I have one time in my bike shop on a the new kickr climb/trainer set up. I am not in pro form in fact miles from it but I got my ars handed to me after the first 3 miles. We were all laughing so hard after it showed how bad the spread was from pro to armature. The start wasn't so bad but when the group got going and hit the first climb it was over. Just amazing how good some people are.

I have done a zwift "race" and done better but there is a bunch of doping there. Zwift is great and I really like it for winter months but anyone who takes in too seriously is just not winning at life IMO.