Originally Posted by
veganbikes
Not talking about motorcycles.
Sorry, but the quote I responded to, "
Being able to go up a hill like it is flat is just pure joy." is absolutely a motor vehicle perspective.
I get it, riding a motorcycle is fun. But when riding a bicycle, the joy of a hill is that you got up it yourself.
And yes, there are other ways to use a motor-assisted bicycle - but those are really not the "joy" the quote I responded to was advertising - if you'd said "not having to worry about hills as obstacles" that would set a very different tone, but "joy" of what the motor does, is the motor vehicle mindset.
And that's the problem with the whole idea - it doesn't stop at "assist", for most of the consumer (to say nothing of commercial) market inevitably goes on to "motoring" - something there's a century long tradition of doing for pleasure and utility, but as a distinct activity from bicycling.
Last edited by UniChris; 02-06-20 at 12:41 PM.