I haven't seen the bike model that when made into an e-model that it doesn't add $2000 to $3000 (and ~20lbs) to that bike. I'm sorry, if I'm spending that kind of money to get the benefit of e-assist I am going to use it. Without apology. I just don't get all the defensive: I only use it on level __, or only on hills, or only when it is a full moon, or I don't use the e-assist at all, I enjoy riding a bike that has a 10lb battery and 8lb motor and not using them. Creesh, you spent the money, you bought a legal product with it. There is no need to be ashamed or stigmatized. Rock the watts and tell us about it or don't, but I really don't want to hear about how fast you didn't go.