Thanks ChiliDog. you'r feed back has been a great help. I know it all comes down to personal prefrence, and to give each one a test ride, but the little bit of a test ride you can get at a dealer just doesnt match up to a day of riding. The dealer has new one's for $1300, and Two last year models left for $1400. The last year models originally sold for $1700 and have better quality components, so thats why their $100 more. Thanks again, anyone else with comments please jump in.