Well I appreciate the input, but the rather inconsiderate CL seller screwed me. After having set up a time and place to inspect the bike, he sold it before I could arrive ( I wasn't late!). Wasted 2 hours driving and fuel for absolutely nothing. Not the way I wanted to start my weekend. Thankfully I may be riding in a perverse "alley cat" tomorrow; for some reason scheduled mid afternoon in FL and no idea of the "format" as usual. Of course using the Raleigh Sports with the racing modification of LOOK pedals. I'll go off on my own as a bandit anyways and work out my wrath! Not worth using a race bike for stop and go riding in the city with traffic and the like.