So many good answers and pictures. Thanks guys.

I will be building the bike including the wheel set so I plan to buy a lot of used parts off of eBay. In fact, although I greatly prefer the aesthetic of the LHT I am leaning towards the troll since I tinker with my bike so much. It went from a flat bar MTB to an e-bike to a drop bar gravel bike.

The troll frame will allow me the same range of options I am just afraid that the horizontal dropouts will be a real PITA.

Also, I used to be a real hater of fat bikes thinking that they are slow and totally useless even with the huge amount of snow that we get in South Dakota and Minnesota. But I just keep hearing over and over that fat bikes are so loved because they're just fun to ride ( a poster above me said the same thing). So having the ability to fit larger tires on the troll would be a plus for me.