Originally Posted by
seypat
I'm talking about one that is really stubborn. You have someone holding the frame , you have both hands on the fixed cup tool and you still can't move it. Of course, I see you can put a cheater bar on each side of the tool you listed. That should do it.
For a
really stubborn fixed cup, you can't beat the Campagnolo 793/A tool. It secures the cup like the venerable VAR-30, but has flats on the side so it can be clamped in a vise. Maximum leverage with no chance of slippage.