Originally Posted by
woodcraft
I've had good results from buying a few cheap stems, & trying different lengths.
Only takes a few minutes to swap them.
Very true. Salsa and Dimension stems are like $15 and I can't see that they are inferior to stems more than 10x the price. And to riff off that ... it only takes a few minutes to change the seat height of a saddle as well. Formula placement can work as a starting point, but after a few rides, the seat should be raised 1/4" and then another 1/4". Then try 1/4" below formula and another 1/4". I like a seat height where when I start pedaling and raise myself to the seat, its right there. That first push with the leading foot should take you right to the saddle. You shouldn't have to skootch higher for it or drop down for it you should be able to just be on the saddle just as your other foot is finding its pedal. Harder to describe in words than to do.