Originally Posted by
SethAZ
The point of the tape would be to ensure a not-too-loose fit of the tire bead under the hook. It wouldn't be needed to seal the spoke holes because there wouldn't be any, but if the tire bead under the hook were a loose fit the tape might be a good idea. I have no idea whether it would be needed or not, but if it were, that's the reason.
Originally Posted by
smashndash
Issue. 1) I think the bead retention ridge is WAY too strong if you don’t use tape. It literally takes like 60-80 lbs of force to get the tire off - harder than you think. WAY easier with a wall-wall layer of tape. I had to use a space heater to get the tire off without tape.
2) You might/will be able to get the tire to seat and hold air with no tape, but it probably won’t pass the “pinch test”. I pinch my tire at a somewhat low psi to make sure the seal is with the bead seat and not the rim sidewall. If the tire hisses (with no sealant) when you pinch it, you have a decent chance of burping air when cornering. Not good. Best case, your sealant will be working way harder than it should.
I'm trying to understand the issues outlined here as they sound contradictory. I'm reading in a couple places that tape is likely necessary to ensure a not loose/tighter fit to ensure a seal, yet at the same time, not using tape makes the tire even harder to
mount remove? (edit)
#SmashnDash , are you referring to experience running TL with a specific no-holes LB wheelset ? Any ideas if these issues go away if using tubes and a standard clincher tire (not TLRs) and in that case tape would be pointless?
Of course using tape of some sort wouldn't be a deal breaker by any means if opting to run TL, but it's not as elegant and simple and seemingly defeats the purpose of selecting this option in the first place (screenshot below). Somewhere in this thread (unless this has changed?) I read that you should NOT have LB install the tape (as they've used non-optimal width or brand?). Finally, would sealant cleanup or removal be any easier without tape?
Originally Posted by
balles3188
I am 82 Kg. more or less so I think I will get the option of 24 holes. I was selecting the options of the wheel on the website and I was surprised by the remaining options I had to choose.. haha...
So some further doubts...
- Center Channel Hole: Holes? Without Holes? Here I need some help...
- Valve Stem? Why would I need this?
I am starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel....
You'd need a valve stem installed if you're planning to run wheels setup for Tubeless.
Regarding center channel holes, see the ongoing discussion in the preceding dozen or so posts previous to this one. Currently, we're at a point where we haven't 100% determined there's a benefit to "without holes" at all if running tubeless; but probably a benefit if running tubes. All in all, going without holes has little downside and maybe more upside.