Originally Posted by
Carbonfiberboy
The "light hands" idea is that while you are pedaling normally, you should be able to lift both hands off the bars without sliding forward and while still pedaling. Certainly some core is involved because that's all that's supporting the torso. However the key word is "briefly". OTOH, one should be able to lift either hand off with no problem for longer periods and without losing position. (sorry folks, I'm posting this thing again.) This rider's fit is, IMO, perfect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z04uoO7U_SA
Okay, I totally get what you're saying now. I slammed the saddle all the way back, and I am finding it much easier to keep my torso up. Before, I was way too far forward and had raised the saddle so my knees weren't kicking my chest. So now I guess where I am a little unsure is my butt's position on the saddle. When I watch that video, it looks like she's quite far forward on her saddle. I can hold and pedal for maybe 2-3 seconds before I need to grab the bars again. Though, if I am keeping my torso at like 30-40 degrees like in the photo, I can keep my body up much longer. I am guessing this part is now more a matter of fitness?
This is where my saddle is at now.
I did just measure my saddle and my sit bones, and the saddle should in theory be a good fit for me. So I think if it's okay to be performing the no hands test with my torso at like 30-40 degrees, the current setback is good, but if I should be able to maintain like 10 degrees, then I likely need more setback.