Originally Posted by speyfitter

the take rate of cycling as a mode share for transportation has been done a significant disservice by the concept of vehicular cycling,.

i don’t need to develop this statement any further as the proof is in the pudding,.

Originally Posted by jim from boston

"so what's your beef with multi-use pathes?"

...i posted earlier on this thread ”getting somewhere” is the essence of a vehicle, be it pleasure, touring. Utility, commuting etc (by bike) yet “vehicular cycling” on a road is derided in comparison to separated bike infrastructure.i think of vehicular cycling in a technical sense as lane positioning on the road..."take the lane." but as [mention=185425]b. Carfree[/mention] also commented: :historically, back in the 19th century when cycling was a new, innovative mode of transportation, advocates like the league of american wheelman were powerful enough to agitate for better roads, as multi-use pathes, with the horses and pedestrians. Then the automobile came along and new advocates could further agitate for even more and better roads, and cars became the predominant and overwhelmingly powerful users.

So now in these days i think it is unlikely that cyclists’ desire for an extensive segregated (and likely costly) bike system that serves many destinations will ever be fulfilled, unless: