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Old 05-18-20 | 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Trevtassie
The tall cartridges are designed to lay on their sides, with the notch in the top upwards. The gas feed tube angles up from the outlet valve to the space above the liquid. Using them upright, until the liquid is used below the feed tube it will flare. But what I found is that when it's cold the butane is pretty rubbish as a gas because of it's lower volatility. So I flip the can so the gas feed tube is immersed in the liquid in the can and the liquid is vapourised in the preheat tube. Without the preheat tube and the ability to flip the can I reckon they'd be very average, they are designed to be used in a box stove where some of the heat from the stove helps vapourise the butane.
I use a Kovea Spider because it has the preheat tube and a hose and it's light and cheap. I'm not a fan of the pot rests, they are a little slippery, you have to watch your pot doesn't slide off. I think I'll use a file to sharpen them up. I wouldn't mind trying a Kovea Hydra, that is liquid and gas fueled, but I'm already at N+5 when it comes to stoves.
One thing to watch for is that not all butane adapters are created equal. I started out with a cheap one like this https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Camping-...MAAOSwrFBdeLtn, but eventually the plastic prongs started wearing out and it wasn't fully opening the cartridge. I thought there was a problem with the stove or the gas until I eventually pushed the adapter in and lo and behold, fully functioning! On that trip I used a rubber band to hold it on, but I now have one similar to this which seems a little more robust https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-LPG-...item441457cf17
I like the looks of the Spider and would consider one if I decide to buy a replacement for my original pocket rocket. It looks like it has a lot of advantages in that it hits a decent price point, has a remote canister, a preheat tube, and is a reasonable weight. I have way more stoves than makes any sense already, but truth be told there are only a couple that I'll actually ever use again.

The Hydra doesn't appear to be readily available in the US. At least a quick search didn't show any retail sources. I'd be hesitant to buy one with the expectation that parts might be very difficult to obtain. I'd maybe be okay with that if it were only a canister stove, but since it is dual fuel and may need pump parts...

I probably shouldn't be in the market for any stoves at all, but I am kind of easily hooked on a new stove purchase for some reason.
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