Originally Posted by Racing Dan

Gallons and gallons of kool aid :-)

Removing the hook is no more innovative than making rims with a non standard diameter and then blame the tyres for not fitting, lol. Enve and zipp are the one causing complications and confusion, not to mention possible danger to unsuspecting customers that may not notice or be aware of the the danger mounting at standard tyre to a hookless rim, that at a glance looks and feels compatible, but isnt. - At the very least such a rim should be plastered with warnings or be larger to a degree that no standard clincher could be mounted.