I have worn the Black Bib Ultimate 5x on 70-80 mile rides and I will order a second pair and third pair. I am 6'2" 210 lbs and the XL was perfect. The fabric is thicker than I thought and washed up well in the delicate cycle cold wash and hanged dry. The chamois was very comfortable and these will be my go to bibs for longer rides. I like the fact the inseam is longer and covers to just above the knee. For $80, I do not think you can go wrong with the Black Bibs Ultimate. Quality garment fabric and the stitching and chamois did not have any rough or friction spots.