Originally Posted by Plainsman

Oooo, that’s a good one. I didn’t even realize the anniversary angle. I thought it was 100 years though (1921). That would be good timing. Now with both a Force and Red 12 speed option, and the 12 speed Record, hard to see Shimano being comfortable with being the odd man out for another full season. And that would put us looking at a 12 speed Ultegra in 2022 or 2023. Typing that makes it look like science fiction dates!