I ordered some bike gloves from a random seller. They were only $8 so expectations were not high. The gloves ended up not being very good. The quality of the glove itself was decent but they were too stretchy and forgiving in the palm and my hand to glove contact was loose even though they were tight if that makes sense. My hand moved inside the glove. The glove to bar tape interface was fine. Either way I left feedback as such. Seller contacted me and returned my money and I kept the gloves. I use them for weight lifting now and are are fine for that. Not sure the point of the story but end result was I and the seller seemed to be happy in the end. I've ordered other $8-10 bike gloves and still using them to this day.