With the big club rides, there had been times when I got dropped turning out of the shop parking light, waiting for a car. Some of the A rides would ride with the B's, just to feel like big fish. Same with B's to C's. I don't need that.

Now I right mostly with a group of fellow retirees and while we like to crank it up the hills, we always wait at turns or at tops. Otherwise, I'd sleep in and do the same ride with a better breakfast.