Thanks Charlie.

FWIW, I use either a better quality point and shoot (Olympus TG-4) or my Samsung Galaxy 10 phone. One day I want to get a full format camera but until then I just work on my technique. I have to say, except for certain effects the fisheye allows on my Olympus, the phone camera impresses me. I know some people are now using I phones as their primary camera instead of standard housings so the camera itself need not be limiting (too much).

I am very fortunate that I scuba dive with two excellent UW photographers and our extended dive group is also mainly photographers. One used to be the editor for an UW Photography e magazine to which I have contributed ideas around GoPro video editing. There is a lot of talk and sharing of ideas that I benefit from. I'm the odd man out using a point and shoot but they say I have a pretty good eye for composition so I can pull off a few winners once in a while even so. They are now also all into taking pictures of birds! because they've all gotten bazooka zoom lens' for trips. I am learning a lot about owls...

Sometimes we have 3-4 hour drives to locales and its almost all photo talk, particularly the concept of capturing images rather than off handedly taking pictures as they/we put focus (pun intended) on that as the primary purpose which diving just facilitates. When I ride I am also always thinking of what the landscape presents that way and touring is a sort of photography centered activity as well.

I like B&W and it helps me learn about adjusting light values in post processing, so I am still learning as I edit. If I could only do one type of shot it would be wide angle B&W landscapes and biking lends itself to that.