... you flip flop advocates ought to give BEDROCK CAIRN a try. you can walk or ride around the world in them. lighter than Chaco's BUT if you want Chaco's try the new BANDED Z CLOUD for a nice firm sandal fit.... all that was hearsay but as for me, I have been riding with my industrial strength CATERPILLAR WORK OXFORDS which are secure and comfortable ......................................... 3 cheers for the BATA BULLET GUY