I had to back out and check that I really was in the 'Electric Bike' sub-forum where a bike like that IS a real bike, thank you very much. No matter how many times the article said that there is no throttle and the rider must pedal at all times there still will be those who must get their superiority jabs in at e-bikes. It gets old even out in the general discussion area, I never expected to find it here too.