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Old 02-17-06 | 09:03 AM
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Bikes: 200x Coppi w DuraAce 9, 82 Schwinn Voyager 11.2, 2004 DeBernardi Track, 83 Centurion Elite RS, and some others.

Araya 631 tubing?

This is my first post on BikeForums, though I've read them for quite a while.

I just scored this bike on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1
For the link averse, it is labeled as a Vista Elite, and as Made in Japan, with an Araya 631 tubing sticker. It is equiped with Shimano 600 Arabesque group and Araya 700c rims.

I scoured the archives and found a post or two about Japanese-built Vistas, but not much. Most of the Vista questions were about the badly American made Schwinn competitors. Unfortunately, I couldn't find anything about Araya 631 tubing. There was a post that said it was unlikely, but possible that someone would "overdress" a gaspipe frame in Shimano 600 during that era. Appealing to the wisemen: Is it Cro-Mo? Is it Hi-ten? Does Anyone know, or will I just have to see if it weighs the same as my 80's Schwinn Voyageur?

I really fell for the Shimano 600EX "Arabesque" group, and there were quite a few posts here to help me. I do wonder whether anyone has tried to use the rear der on an 8-speed wheel (I also scored a pair of tubular wheels with older DuraAce hubs.) Does it have the throw, or will I just have to wait and see?

Thank you all for your help so far.

Paul
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