Okay, this is one of my all time favourite threads on bike forums, and nobody has posted in it for over a year.

Since Xootr got out of the biz there is no standard Swift in production, which is a terrible pity in my opinion. Nevertheless, Titan the Chinese company still has their webpage up featuring the frame which to some extent came into being on this conversation thread.

I wonder if anyone out there has recently ordered a frame from Titan and what their experience was?

Also, some readers who bought frames from Titan several years ago have now had those years to assess how well the bikes hold up and how good they actually are. Any comments from owners about how satisfied they are with the product after years of ownership?

Finally, I'm considering searching out a frame builder (preferably in Canada or the Pacific Northwest) who'd be willing to consider a titanium or stainless Swift build. Does anyone know of anybody? Has anyone besides Titan Products in China ever made such a thing as a titanium bike based on the Swift folder design?

All comments appreciated. Thanks.