Originally Posted by johngwheeler

I recently bought some new Lake shoes and went for a 67km ride with them... possibly a bit too far for a first "test ride"!


I was fine during the ride, but noticed that my knees were quite sore around the patella a few hours after the ride, which is still noticeable 2 days later.


My first thought was that the new shoes have a higher stack height and that as a result, my saddle would need raising.. But with the same insole, the Lakes seem to be within a millimeter of my previous Northwave shoes. I measured this by placing a ruler vertically on top the insole (just over the cleat) and marking the height on the wall, then repeating with the old shoes. I'm using the same cleats (Speedplay Zero) on both sets of shoes


Could it be the cleat fore-and-aft position? The Lakes are a bit longer (c. 5mm - I went up a size because I'm between two sizes), but I attempted to get the cleats the same difference from the tip of the shoes, so maybe there is a small difference in cleat position relative to the ball of my foot.


Any ideas on what to adjust first? I don't want to chase errors by making all sorts of useless adjustments...