Originally Posted by
cudak888
Pretty sure the geometry is the same on the Paramount Tourists. The only difference I can recall is that 3-speed Tourists (including the second-gen models) usually have a chainguard tab on the frame.
-Kurt
Now I'm wondering if the Paramount Tourist model has a different seat angle than the standard model. I thought it had longer chain stays but I don't remember. Years ago a repainted lots of them but not in the last 20 years.
Here is a picture of a light weight upright frame/bike I made for myself. It was a frame building class example. It has 71º angles. I have studied upright bicycle geometries and know that the classic Dutch bicycle has very shallow angles for their very upright positions. Behind my bike is one of my fitting bikes and it is easy to see how the saddle wants to be further back when setting up to use upright bars. It is obvious when riding one trying to find the best position. Behind my fitting bike on the wall is my frame design fixture. By placing the saddle/handlebar position found on the fitting bike on the design fixture, one can create the best possible geometry to match the chosen seat post and stem. Drop bars rotate the body (and your seat) forward (requiring a more upright seat angle) while upright bars rotate your body back (relaxing the seat angle). In a perfect world, the frame's geometry matches the rider's body position whatever kind of handlebars are chosen.