Originally Posted by
Loyd
Hi. I’m a total newb to C/V bikes.
Are these bikes similar enough on how they ride, frame material, etc. to dissuade one from owning both?
After reading a bit about frames, I’m still not entirely sure if Tange = CrMo.
I currently have the Allez but have been pining for an Ironman.
And there’s just something about red bikes...

Plenty here in both camps and I vote Specialized, the Ironmen will be along shortly I suspect. I agree with IC about getting one but unlike him I just vote for both.