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Old 04-05-21 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 2old
Do you remember Ancheer (on Amazon). The first 10 bikes listed, all $500 - $1,000, were rated 4+ (of 5) average in customer satisfaction the last time I looked. Maybe you don't remember the bike with the new Shimano motor at my LBS where the individual has been waiting about four months for parts to get it repaired and they won't have anything until May. Look at MTBR where an individual has had his major OEM motor replaced three or four times. How about Focus and KTM, major manufacturers that just decided not to operate in the US after developing and selling products for our industry? I think you assume that, since individuals bring you bikes that need to be repaired, all similar models are faulty. It's just an elitist attitude that unless something isn't the highest priced product, it's unsuitable. I've built at least 10 bikes for myself and friends and all are still functioning well. But, from now on I'll just "ignore" you.
Ahhh yes the global crisis causing parts delays, that is certainly an issue purely for Shimano and there motor is at fault entirely. Focus did leave the U.S. but they still have very decent support for their product here and surprisingly very few of my Focus customers have had issues that Focus hasn't at least attempted to take care of. I cannot speak to KTM as I have really seen or deal with their products in the U.S. I can say when I have issues with the major motor brands I have good support behind them and yes sometimes especially recently there have been parts delays but that is not a fault of theirs it is just a fact of the world we live in right now and you would have to literally be living under a rock not to have noticed it.

Oh and Amazon reviews always a good place to see reviews like "product shipped on time" or "product was well packaged". Ancheer is crap and you know it and I know it and trying to defend them is silly. You cannot tell me you can put together a bike for $500 that is also an e-bike and of any sort of quality. They haven't found some magical formula where their parts are the same quality but way way way cheaper. For what they are they are the best quality but that is like saying a bottle of MD 20/20 is equivalent to Château Latour.

I don't assume that, I see the same models and brands coming to me and a bunch of others over years and years of being in the industry. I deal with their service departments or warranty people if they have them and we try to fix their bikes. I did NOT mention anything about the highest priced product being the best, I do say that quality motor brands will have good support behind them and therefore are going to be better but if you really think that is untrue then maybe you are missing something.

Please do ignore me it won't be any skin off my back.
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