Old 04-26-21 | 08:55 PM
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reelfishin
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The SL12.2 I traded away looked the same as the one above but with red or burgundy outlined decals, bar end shifters, and a sprung saddle. The bar tape matched the decal outline color and the cable housings.

The headset looks the same, the way the seat stays meet the top lug looks the same, as does the rear dropouts as well.
If it wasn't an SL12.2 someone sure went to great lengths to make it into one. I doubt if the chrome was coated in anyway, but the decals were sort of printed on a clear backing or had something over them. I could feel they were one big decal not individual letters like the older decals were. The decals on a 70's Speedster I've got here are done the same way,
It also had a riveted headbadge, with the type of rivets you hammer in, not screws like on a Traveler I looked at.
If the frame was clear coated, it would have scratched the clear not taken off the few rust specs on the chainstay and lower fork when I rubbed it with steel wool.

I didn't sell it, it was a trade with some cash and spare parts included, and a case of beer. He really wanted that frame for some reason. I have no clue what he's going to do with it.
It didn't look like anything special to me.

Once I get the SGP all together I'll weigh it and get a total assembled weight. My guess is it won't be much more than your Super Course. I don't have a Park Scale, the only scales I have here is a postal scale that goes up to 140 lbs, and a couple of fish scales that work similar but I've got no idea how accurate they are throughout the whole range, they go 0-50 lbs, I varified them using a 10 lb dumbell weight and got 10.01 lbs, so I figure its pretty close.

I weighed the bike as it sits, with the SC wheels on it, and got 19.6 lbs, I lifted and weighed it 5 times and got the same reading each time, zeroing the scale each time.
I weighed the bag of components, including packaging for various parts, and got 6.2 lbs total.
The total of the parts, packaging, and bike as it sits in the above picture, is 25.8 lbs. Not bad for gas pipe.
I've got a sneaky suspicion they didn't build these with plain steel, my bet is like mentioned above, they likely used up some '77 SC tube sets to build the first SGP models. Its about the only thing that makes sense. They're not flat out SC frames, because the lugs on the SGP are more ornate then those on the SC in '77 or '78. The angles are identical to an SC as well. I also can't say how much weight savings there is between Hi Ten steel and straight gauge 531 either. As far as i know, steel is steel, if both are straight gauge steel, regardless of one being 531 or not, the both will weigh the same. In other words, one cubic inch of chromoly steel weighs the same as one cubic inch of mild steel, the weight savings is only there if you make it thinner and use less material. When i take the bike apart, I'll weigh the bare frame and fork to see what's there. my guess is it'll weigh the same as an SC frame or be darn close to it.


That bag includes a full crankset, (keep in mind there's already a BB set in the bike too), stock steel Raleigh reflector pedals and toe clips, a full reflector kit new in the bag with brackets, (the bike already has a front bracket installed as well, a complete set of Suntour Barcon shifters, complete with SS housings, cables, shifters, and a set of frame clamps that won't be needed on this bike, plus a set of Raleigh scripted shifter covers, front and rear Raleigh Scripted C/P calipers, Sturmey Archer spoke protector, a Suntour Perfect 14-34 freewheel, one new Raleigh scripted Cyclone GT derailleur, and one Suntour Comp V front derailleur. a brand new 118 link SedisSport chain new in sleeve, and a tube of Park Poly lube. I threw in the tube of grease because I didn't know how much weight fresh grease will add and there's no bar tape included in these weights.
I also weighed the cranks separately to compare them to a set of Grand Prix steel ring cranks and got 1.5 lb for the SGP cranks, and got 2.1lb for the GP cranks. The only difference being the chainrings.

In digging through the box of spare parts he gave me there's more than enough parts to build another whole bike minus a frame set.
I've got three cranksets, one brand new, two used, plus one GP crankset off an older bike, four Cyclone GT rear derailleurs, two VXGT rear derailleurs, two Compe V front derailleurs, two Cyclone front derailleurs, 8 sets of bar end shifters, 5 of which are brand new kits in Suntour bags, one is a new kit from Raleigh. four 'Raleigh' Cycle Pro oem reflector kits complete with brackets, two Raleigh Scripted leather saddles, two Selle Royale scripted padded leather saddles, one Brooks B17, two sets of Atom alloy pedals, two sets of Raleigh steel pedals, four new Q/R Normandy H/F hubs, two red banded Normandy hubs, (Not sure if these are any good for this, he seemed to think they may be French threaded), one set of Atom L/F hubs, and one set of Maillard L/F Q/R hubs, two shorter chains, one is likely the original chain off the bike, three freewheels, all Suntour perfect, one 14-34, one 14-30, and one 14-28. Plus one Suntour Cyclone short cage rear derailleur.
And a pile of small parts, four rolls of Rampar cloth bar tape, two new black wall, Michelin Dynamic 700-28C tires with two new Michelin tubes. two 700x35 Michelin World Tour gumwall tires and two used older Hutchinson 700x28c tires that he said were off another bike he had before. There's also an extra 110mm GB stem, one GB handlebar, and one 'Raleigh Handlebar just like is on the bike now.
There's also one more pair of Weinmann brake levers and calipers but without the safety levers, and two 26.6mm Raleigh Scripted seat posts with two Suede Raleigh saddles, and one set of aluminum Esge branded road fenders. There may be more but I haven't gone through it all yet. Plus one 30 pack of Pabst Blue Ribbon.

I guess I'll have to find a Super Course frame to put together now, if I can find one in 23.5 or 25.5 I have everything else here to build it 100% original. The SC would probably have to be a '77 or '78 model, with the '78 model being preferred but I don't think there's much difference between the two other than the rear dropouts and a few braze-ons.






Frameset, L/F wheels, BB, HS, bars, brake levers, brake cables, and padded leather "Raleigh" saddle.


6.2 lbs includes the crankset and all listed above



Out of curiosity I weighed the crank arms by themselves and got 1.5 lbs. (Aluminum chain rings,with OEM chain guard)
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