Originally Posted by wilson_smyth

Thanks! The SL was picked more from lack of choice last March. It was the only bike in my size in the area (and i checked half a dozen bike stores). its quick away from the lights and very responsive (IMO).

Its little heavier than i like, and on a reasonably level local cycle (1 hour duration exactly, 200m elevation over the hour) I can only average 27kph on a good day(no wind, good sleep etc), including traffic light stops.
I think with the right bike i could probably average 30kph or more on the same circuit, but i also think more training will get me there on the current bike.

Yes, i got the SQLab inner bar ends for more hand positions on longer rides, but they do help a little with aero and keeping the elbows in. They're a great addition.
Also put Conti GP5000 32mm on it to replace schwalbe 40mm all rounds. nothing wrong with the schwalbe, they were actually great, very comfortable, but I do think i can hit a reasonable kph with less effort on the conti's, but maybe that's just in my head.

Trying to model the attain geometry in my head and i assume it will position the rider more over the front wheel, which is where i spend a lot of my time on my current bike anyway when accelerating from lights or overtaking.

The cube Attain is about 1.5kg lighter, not a huge amount, whereas the canyon is closer to 3kg lighter (all estimates).
Whats odd is the canyon gets rave reviews over here in Europe, but now im not sure if thats simply because of its relatively lower cost for higher spec and low weight for an AL bike, without taking anything else into consideration.