It seems like too many folks are getting hung up on semantics and nomenclature. The intent behind the structure and division of any online discussion forum should strive to bring together like-minded folk. The early brifter-era road bikes certainly have a place here in C&V, but I can imagine the deluge of C&V posts tend not to draw in as many folks with interest exclusive to that 'era' (if I may call it that). I personally agree that the new forum (or sub-forum, wherever it gets placed) is a worthy experiment, whose success might be judged by how much special interest it draws from that crowd.
Regarding semantics, I've experienced enough of that on
classic vintage car forums, where heated discussions occur with disturbing regularity over what should and should not qualify as 'spirit of the original'.
Here's my 2c:
- I agree with some commenters above that road bikes from the 90s and 00s are somewhat orphaned currently.
- It should not be assumed that qualification for the new forum also disqualifies from the old forum. I enjoy the fluidity of the various sub-forums-- 80s component topics on mechanics forum as well as C&V, vintage touring topics on the touring forum as well as C&V, commuting... you get the gist. In the end, it's all subjective and situational.
- A 1983 Univega Specialissima with brifters is C&V, and having brifters does not suddenly transform it into a 1999 Klein. Brifters would be just another component I might upgrade on what is otherwise a C&V bike, big deal. And if I do, I logically expect to continue posting about that bike here.
- Perhaps we ought to rename the new forum to avoid confusion with what qualifies. How about "early brifter-era road bikes", or something like that?
- For the sake of continuity, with the understanding that the new sub-forum might be experimental, I say leave old threads where they are, unless some compelling reason arises.
Lastly, I thank the moderators and maintainers of this site. They deserve continued praise for persevering through the needs of this very 'special' crowd. However, if this change is being made, then it should be made in a way that does the least harm.