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Old 06-07-21 | 02:33 PM
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Bikes: 1983 Univega Super Strada, 1986 Panasonic DX5000, 1984 Fuji Team 85 Univega Gran Turismo, 1984 Lotus Unique, 1987 Centurion Expert, 1987 Centurion Ironman Master,

Originally Posted by pcb
I'm shooting from the hip, without diving into actual specs and such, which would be tough to do since we don't know what year models we're comparing here. That is not a criticism of the OP, that is me looking for excuses for shooting from the hip.

I'd be surprised if any Team Miyata was heavier than any Miyata 1000. So I doubt it'll be heavier.

My impression of the Team Miyata and Pro Miyata is they were not models that started as Euro-flavored stage-race frames, then morphed into US-flavored crit-race suffer machines. I think they sprang forth on the world as tight, quick-handling race frames for short/tight circuit racing.

Stiffer/livelier/friskier can be fun. Just understand it won't be a stiffer frame on the same width tires you're likely running on the 1000, it'll be a stiffer frame on probably much narrower tires. It's not just about the frame, it's also very much about the tires. Again, I don't know exact specs, but you're very possibly maxing out at 25mm tires on a Team. The _idea_ of stiffer/livelier can be great, whereas the _reality_ of stiffer/livelier on 25mm tires on crappy pavement may not be so great. I'd be budgeting a goodly amount of dough for the nicest narrow tires I could find. If they'll fit true 28mm tires, I'd dial back that warning quite a bit.

But as Mr. Spock once said: "After a time, you may find that 'having' is not so pleasing a thing, after all, as 'wanting.' It is not logical, but it is often true."
I agree with what you say. My 83 Super Strada has the same Miyata frame and 25mm tires on it. Just by looking I don't think 28s
would fit on it.
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