vintage for me isn't simply about what year the thing was made. its a combo of the above-mentioned things. is the process that produces the frame the same as it was "back in the day"? is the end product still categorically "old school looking"? is the style and class mixing into a nice dreamy dose of nostalgic radness? yep yep and yep. then it's vintage. --- thanks for the compliments on my bikes! the paramount is for sure vintage, as is the chesini. the maruishi is only vintage to me and my own personal history for private reasons.