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Old 06-09-21 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SJX426
Early in my membership here, I thought there was a better way to categorize topics of discussion. How arrogant. The scope of knowledge and experience is unique to this forum along with the personalities. Fortunately the range of personalities tends to be a heck of a lot more civil than elsewhere.

I learned a lot here and I mean C&V. I too visit other forums but this is home.

I can understand the apparent lack of attention to the 8-11V topics but it isn't unlike so many other aging experiences. What is contemporary to me is now 40 years old or more. I consider the latest addition, 1988 De Rosa Pro with full 10V record, a new bike. It exists in my happy place because of this forum and specifically C&V. Thank you to all of those who have contributed to my OCDness!

If threads are going to be moved, there is a gold mine of threads in the mechanics, framebuilders, 50+, folding bikes, tandems, SS, etc. forums.

If this trend of "fixing what ain't broke" and "change for change sake" is going to happen, what about a forum based on eroica qualifications to be used for C&V criteria?
The Derosa just illustrates the diversity and richness of the C&V umbrella. It's not vintage in any reasonable sense, but it is certainly classic since it harks back to the consgrution of steel road racing bakes before WW2, and illustrates the beauty and rideability of a classic frame EVEN when carrying a contemporary-style drive train. That means it belongs in C&V, the Indexing thread, and Roadie World, maybe even Long Distance, since there are folks who ride such bikes on long rides.

It also illustrates that sharp lines are hard to draw.

What if somebody did a pedal-off between such a DeRosa and a top-line Specialized Roubaix? Where would that belong?

SJX, this was not intended as any sort of opposition. Just, thanks for the inspiration!
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