Well Randy, I can't hardly believe you of all people would be asking. That being said I know that when I was a kid with very little wrenching experience, I still got them to hold most of the time.

Now days it seems like the very crappy generic version distort, gall, round off the nuts and suck in general no matter what. I had one on a Brooks that I took to the gym a couple of years ago that I would you on their stationary bikes, it was a PITA but I finally got it down with the right Snap-on wrench that I could get good leverage with and I got practiced at it.

Then came the new Strawberry and I opted for a Brooks version for the chrome steel post and railed B-17 I put on it.

Many commented about how crappy they are as we are doing here.

I took the clamp apart and put anti-seize on the threads and mating surfaces of the bolts and plates, keeping it off the gripping parts of the plates and the SP clamp portion.

Got after it with the same Snap-on wrench and never had it slip a bit. I think you have to get the threads so you can lean on them a ridiculous amount.

This has never slipped at all, yet.

It was all about the chrome.