Originally Posted by randyjawa

Pedals with traps and straps are not my favorite but they do the job...
I prefer them to clipless.

Down tube shifters, in my opinion, are dangerous to use but they do the job...
Dangerous? Nah!

But Old School seat posts and the saddle mount assembly = pooey stinko..!
I agree 100%. In fact, I think you understated the point.

Once installed and tightened up, a lot, they still tend to rotate and/or rock. What am I doing wrong, if anything, or is this the nature of the beast?