Originally Posted by
Nuovo Record
Are there Italian frames (or frame builders) that are to be avoided? I know that Mexican-built Benottos had quality issues. Are there others?
The general background of my question is: I have been looking for a C-C-C frame for quite some time now (ideally 50 cm seat tube / 49 cm upper tube, both center-center), and I would, of course, love a Bianchi Specialissima, Masi, De Rosa, or Cinelli frame, but I canīt seem to find one. Plan B is to buy a frame from some lesser known maker who used the same components.
Patience and persistence are key, especially in your (small) size. I had the opposite problem; I need big frames (at least 62cm, 64cm is better). Frames at the outer edges are out there, but you have keep at it. Your efforts will be rewarded.
Reputable names include, in no particular order: Daccordi; Bottechia; Basso; Rossin; Faggin; Fiorelli; Viner; Battaglin; Willier-Trestina; and Mondonico. There are more, these are just off the top of my head. Also, Billatto (sp?) Brothers and Biemezetta (BMZ) both did a bunch of contract builds for other builders; they made a good product. And as previously mentioned, De Rosa, Masi, Poghliaghi and top-end Bianchi frames are high on many grail lists.
Others may want to chime in here, but I have to go now.