5's I think are more to get your mass start experience but if you are not finishing with the lead group in the 5's then don’t cat up. I believe that to go from 4 to 3 you should win. But having said that I am thinking in other terms now. The cat 4 races around here are short boring races where everyone waits around till the 200 meter mark. Last year my strategy was to break away when ever I could to at least have some fun but it was only successful once out of about 25 races. The cat 3 races are often 30 miles more or longer and sometimes lumped into the 1/2's. This is where things can start happening. So I may get my 10 top 10's and cat up this year, I still don't know?